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Showing posts with label robocalls. Show all posts
Showing posts with label robocalls. Show all posts

Telemarketing Robocalls illegal beginning Sept. 1, 2009

Regretfully those 'Vote For Me!' political robocalls and some of those live 'buy this' calls will continue.


So yesterday I got a call on my cell from 202-495-7148 but aI do not answer it as it is not a number I recognize.  When I googled it I find it is one used by telemarketers.  What I want to know is what the governement could do should I report this number should the telemarketers use such a number after September 1st?  You see they have equipment that can "spoof" any number they want.  So the number you see on caller ID is not necessarily the number they are calling from.  Read on:
*Update Sept 22, 2009 330-433-5839 robocall today
*Update Sept 24th 330433-5839 called three times within an hour and a half late this evening.  The first two times they did not leave a message but the third time the message was,"This is a survey call.  We'll call again later."  I have received that message from the same voice jtwice before saying they were wanting to take a constituate survey.
Many (not all) of those annoying prerecorded telemarketing calls will be history starting Sept. 1.

The Federal Trade Commission said Thursday, Aug. 27, 2009, that it's banning robocalls, unless the telemarketer has written permission from a customer that he or she wants to receive these calls. So be sure to read all the extra fine print before you sign anything. Telemarketers love to hit you with a 'gotcha' on those 'Win the car!' cards you fill out at the Mall.

FTC Chairman Jon Leibowitz said American consumers have made it "crystal clear that few things annoy them more than the billions of commercial telemarketing robocalls they receive every year."

Violaters will face penalties of up to $16,000 per call.

The ban is part of the amendments to the FTC's Telemarketing Sales Rule unveiled a year ago.

There are exceptions. Calls that are not trying to sell goods and services to consumers will be exempt, such as those that provide information like flight cancellations and delivery notices and those from debt collectors.

Other calls not covered by the Telemarketing Sales Rule include those from politicians, charities that contact consumers directly, banks, insurers, phone companies, survey calls and certain health care messages such as prescription notifications. These don't fall under the jurisdiction of the FTC, a commission spokesman said. (and those are the ones that presently bug the $*&% out of me these days)

Before the ban, consumers had to join a do-not-call list to avoid prerecorded telemarketing calls. But after Sept. 1, consumers shouldn't get most of these calls anymore. If they do get one, they can file a complaint with the commission online through FTC.gov or by calling 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357). (don't you just love those phone number given as spelled words)

If you are already on the National Do Not Call Registry you should not be getting live and prerecorded telemarketing calls. Now, everyl consumer is protected from getting most robocalls leaving telemarketers with the limited option of making a live call to someone not on the registry.

"If consumers think they're being harassed by robocallers, they need to let us know, and we will go after them," Leibowitz said.

330-433-5839, 202-495-7148, 202-461-3457, 414-462-5902, 501-977-0960, 866-567-1751, 910-743-2274, 866-520-4551, 877-249-4007, 847-557-1100, 952-582-6081, 800-699-3423, 214-221-9430

*Update May 2011:  I guess I've been remiss but the list doesn't end.  The scammers are out there and they just keep on coming.  


777-889-6633, 406-219-2389, 406-219-2085, 803-326-1322, 678-828-4014, 770-266-5821, 404-494-7084, 801,823-2028, 612-899-3500, 954-1900, 313-203-8198, 800-390-4812, 561-300-8724, 978-570-2411

Plus they now have a device that can fool you if you use caller ID to screen calls that can have your caller ID show your spouses, bank, school, or anybody you know phone number.
*Update Sept 22, 2009 330-433-5839 robocall today
***Update Aug. 27, 2009 go to http://barrytyred3.blogspot.com/2009/08/telemarketing-robocalls-illegal.html for a new FTC regulation making robocalling illegal...for the most part.  But there is a technology that lets them "spoof" most any number.  The latest are calls from Washington D.C. 202-495-7148, 202-461-3457

The national Do Not Call site will accept cell phone numbers also
http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall
I understand the FTC has filed a suit against one of these outfits that does the car warranty calls but it doesn't seem to slow them down or stop the others. The latest one using area code 214 and the number of 221-9430 called me today. Like all the others I have posted in here it leads to a car warranty robo-call. I wonder how they do this calling all over the country from a non-800 number? Don't expect me to find out but I know they are doing it. I also read that these outfits are ignoring the do not call lists too. I guess our only resource is to call our senators and representatives.

There is a lot more below the picture but here is an edit adding a link to information, with names, about the people behind these irritating calls. Click this XXX

Edit May 13, 2009 to add that it appears the do not call list works with the main outfit violating this regulation. It has pissed off a Senator and at last word this morning it looks like the FTC will be looking into the main oufit behind these Robocalls. Here is a most interesting link to a site dealing with nothing but this stuff:
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/8i1u7/want_the_phone_number_to_the_your_cars_warranty/

866-567-1751, 910-743-2274, 866-520-4551, 877-249-4007, 847-557-1100, 952-582-6081 - When I search the net for these numbers I find information that the origin of most of them is from an outfit called GC Services that does calls for Capital One which is a credit card company. I do not have one of their cards nor am I in debt. Actually I'm one of those people that credit card outfits hate because they do not make any money from me directly because I pay my cards off in full each month.

Regarding 847-557-1100 research on it turned up this outfit: W. Arrow-Financial.com 599 W. Touhy Ave, Niles, Illinois 60714 with a FAX number of 847-647-1215. They called my cell phone and my wife's cell phone a few time in July and August of 2008.

Searched 952-582-6081 and it looks like it belongs to a Thomas Hall who (depending on which one you read) is either a phone sex operator or a blind call collector for WaMu.

800-699-3423 and 414-462-5902 search appears to be a telemarketer scam setup re: car warranty sales etc.

Adding in numbers that call, leave no answer and a Google search show it listed with numerous complaints from all over the country about just that.
02-28-2009 added 501-977-0960
Here's the really frustrating part of it - they don't leave a message in the voice mail and they hang up if you do answer. When I researched the numbers many people call the number back and have talked with the "collectors" on the other end with little or no success at stopping the calls. Strange thing is the numbers keep on changing and then will stop for a month or two only to start back again for a few weeks.

I will add to this post each time I get a similar call and search it just to find it is the same source. So while you are here look over the interesting stuff.

These nuisance calls have resulted in me no longer bothering to answer if I do not recognize the number or if it is a call from my area code or a close relatives area code. I figure if it is important they will leave a message or call repeatedly right away.

One other interesting item I've uncovered is they are only calling phone numbers that are cell phones. Could there be an ulterior motive of accumulating known subscribed cell phone numbers to sell to 'phone spammers' just like email spammers? Something to think about.

You may have arrived here by doing an Internet search for one of the phone numbers. That is what I did and decided to include these numbers in amongst the blog posts here as I get them.

Reminder: the national Do Not Call site will accept cell phone numbers also
http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall  But that will not stop them.
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